I am a huge fan of brining poultry! I use brines in competition and at home. For those of you that have never tried brining, you simply must. There is just no better way to add moisture and get perfect seasoning all the way down to the bone. In addition to dramatically improving the flavor, the added moisture gives you an extra margin for error in avoiding the dreaded balsa-wood-like dry white meat.
I've tried many brine concoctions for my holiday birds, and I've settled on this one, at least for now. Give it a try and drop me a line to tell me what you think. This recipe works very well for both smoking or traditional roasting, and with Thanksgiving just days away, there's not really a better time to post it.
Ingredients
1 1/2 gal Ice water (lots of ice)
1/2 gal Hot tap water
2 cups Dark brown sugar
1 1/2 cups Kosher salt
1/4 cup Old Bay seasoning (available in most grocery stores)
1 tsp Chinese five spice (Asian section of most grocery stores -- I like the Sun Luck brand)
Juice of 2 lemons
Juice of 2 oranges
Extra ice as needed
Notes:
- If you can't find the Chinese five spice, just use allspice.
- This recipe is scaled for a 14-16 pound turkey. You will need to scale it up for larger birds.
- A good time guideline is 45 minutes per pound.
Method
Get a clean food-safe five-gallon bucket, wash it, then sanitized it with a gallon of water and a capful of bleach.
Make the ice water in the bucket.
Bring the tap water to a boil in a stock pot or large pan.
Remove the pan from the heat and add the salt, sugar, citrus juice and all of the seasonings.
Let the seasoning mixture sit in the pan, stirring occasionally, until all of the salt and sugar are dissolved.
Add the water and seasoning mixture to the ice water in the bucket.
Gently submerge the turkey in the brine, breast-side-down. Oh, and make sure you've removed both pouches of innards.
Note: It must be completely submerged, so add more ice and water if necessary. If the turkey tends to float, you can seal a rock in a zip-top bag and stuff it in the cavity.
Set the bucket in the coldest place you can find (I put mine outside or in the garage), cover with foil, wrap with a sleeping bag or blankets, and let sit at least 12 and up to 24 hours.
Caution: For food safety it's critical that the brine be kept at or under 40º throughout the entire brining process, so check the ice and add more as needed.
An hour before you're ready to cook the turkey, lift it gently and slowly from the brine, allowing it to drain completely. I turn it over just to make sure.
Pat the turkey dry with paper towels.
Rub the skin with canola oil and roast or smoke as desired.
Enjoy!
Further reading: To Brine Or Not To Brine?
This is a very late comment but I used your brine recipe for my turkey last Thanksgiving. Let me say that the outcome was AMAZING. Everyone was raving about the turkey. I can't wait to use this recipe this upcoming Thanksgiving. Thanks for sharing the recipe!
ReplyDeleteYou've made me a believer in brining.
ReplyDeleteIs the recipe using Diamond Crystal Kosher salt?
ReplyDeleteMarlin - Any Kosher salt will work well.
ReplyDeleteSounds great! I'm going to brine in a Xlarge ziplock bag and put the bag inside an ice chest. Just prepare per the recipe and add the 1 1/2 gallons of ice water? Will the smaller area for brine in the bag make a difference as far as the flavor of the finished product as opposed to the bucket method?
ReplyDeleteThanks!
Bo - The bag will affect nothing. Just make sure it's submerged and let nature go to work. Let me know what you think. -John
ReplyDeleteCan you brine a turkey you are going to fry, Just dry really well?
ReplyDeleteLynette - Yes, you can brine a turkey that will be fried. Just be sure to drain and dry it VERY well.
ReplyDeleteDo you need to baste or cover the turkey as it cooks?
ReplyDeleteMary - No, you don't ever need to baste a turkey, and it doesn't need to be covered.
ReplyDeleteJohn the two turkeys were awesome with this brine. Smoked on a ProQ and a WSM at around 275 degrees. There were two enhanced birds so I doubled the recipe and cut back on the salt by 1/2 but think I'll cut back a little more next time. Yes, I'll use this brine again and again. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI wanted to add my comment about the brining. Just do it!! I tried this as my first brine on a Thanksgiving turkey and it came out incredible. I am a true believer on brining from here on out. You wont regret trying it out and get the brine bags from Bed, Bath and Beyond they were like $5 and perfect for it.
ReplyDeleteThanks, guys. I really appreciate the kind comments, and I'm glad that you enjoyed the recipe.
ReplyDeletedo i need to rinse the turkey after taking it out of the brine
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - Yes, you should always rinse brined meat and pat it dry with paper towels before cooking it.
ReplyDeleteThis is the best turkey recipe ever! I've been using this recipe for about 3 years and everybody loves it! I've tried so many before but this is truly the best! Thanks John!
ReplyDeleteI love this brine for turkey. I am thinking of trying it for smoked salmon any thoughts?
ReplyDeletemade yet another brine believer! I will never go back! great recipe that i`ve been using for 3 years. Also great for large roasted chickens with some reductions to the ingredient amounts. Thanks much
ReplyDeleteIs it ok to brine a turkey in a really big stock pot?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - A stock pot is just a big metal bucket, so yes. However, I'd avoid aluminum.
ReplyDeleteAre you able to use a spice rub on the bird after brining? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteDave
Dave - Absolutely not! It's strictly forbidden by Federal law. I kid, of course. Yes, please use your favorite rub.
ReplyDeleteDo you need to modify the amount of salt in the brine solution for turkeys that have been injected with the Saline solution at the processing plant?
ReplyDeleteSteve - As I mention here, cut the salt in half when brining an "enhanced" bird.
ReplyDeleteAt my house we put the submerged turkey in a large oven bag and keep it in the refrigerator for two days. It's a great way to get a good flavor. I have done many variations but not with Old Bay, that sounds really tasty. Going to add some Old Bay to the mix this year. Great photo of your bird by the way! Nummmm
ReplyDelete14lb turkey 8% water how long should I brine it for. Thanks Pat.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - See the notes at the end of the post.
ReplyDeleteI agree, brining is the only way to go with a bird of any type. But, I have never tried on something like a pheasant. Have you, and what were the results?
ReplyDeleteThanks,
Bill
Bill - No, I've never used the brine on anything but turkey. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteIt would be useful to measure your salt by weight. Not everyone has kosher salt available. (I'm in Australia and I've never seen it, though we have flake salt, rock salt and everything between). Other salts may substitute exactly by weight though.
ReplyDeleteJohn, Thanks for sharing this. I just dunked the Christmas Turkey for tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteAndrew, in other recipes I have substituted sea salt for kosher salt. Generally you want coarse ground (not rock) salt.
Ok freaked out! Cannot find Old Bay seasoning. Can you suggest a substitute? I am in Canada
ReplyDeleteCPMatthew - Here you go. ;-)
ReplyDeleteIf I was just doing a bone in turkey breast would this work? also how would I change the amounts?
ReplyDeletecrystine - It will work beautifully, and you don't need to alter anything. Just go with 45 minutes to an hour per pound.
ReplyDeleteFirst time smoking a turkey. Wanted to practice before the holiday. I was awesome!!! I smoked 14lb bird on my UDS for 5 hours and it was the best turkey I ever had. NO more fried turkeys for me. We are going to do two for the holidays, one in the oven and one on the smoker. Thanks!!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - I am so glad that the brine recipe worked well for you. Thanks for your kind feedback.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteTrying this for my first turkey and advice? I have a 14 pd turkey. How long should I brine and cook? What temp! Lol don't laught first time cooking one, all on my own now!!!
Thanks B
Anonymous - I recommend brining for 45 minutes per pound, as I mention here. As for cooking, this should help, just substitute this brine for the Big Bird Bath.
ReplyDeleteI Have a 8 lb bone in turkey breast going to smoke .Should I cut the brine in Half or use the original full brine for the 14 lb.
ReplyDeletejerry
Jerry - It's all about volume. You just need enough to submerge/cover the breast, so go with 2/3 of the recipe.
ReplyDeleteI recently brined my first bird using a variant of this recipe for a New Years Eve party. Being from Maryland ( the home of Old Bay) I substituted I used 1 cup Kosher salt and 1 Cup Old Bay and did a short 8 hr soak. I also rubbed some Old Bay under the skin on the breasts before cooking the bird in the oven.
ReplyDeleteThe turkey was the smash hit of the NYE party and I'll never cook another without brining again. Couldn't believe how moist the entire bird was and was extremely surprised and pleased that it did not turn out too salty. The Old Bay flavor was noticable, but was subtle and not overpowering. A true home run!
Thanks for the easy to follow recipe and for all the good advice !
Anonymous - I am so glad that your bird was a hit. Thanks for your kind words.
ReplyDeleteWill the turkey taste like Old Bay and/or Chinese spices when eaten ? Thanks
ReplyDeletedlgetz - No, the meat will just be nicely seasoned.
ReplyDeletedo you need to use ice if you use refrigerator
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - The ice serves to quickly cool and dilute the hot ingredients, so you need it for that purpose. After that, just make sure that the liquid stays at 40 degrees or colder using whatever method you prefer.
ReplyDeleteI brined a turkey in the past and the wife said it was too salty, I don't remember but it must have been a pre-injected turkey. I want to brine again this year but I ordered a fresh turkey from a farm that is not injected. If I follow this recipe can I also inject a butter/garlic mixture in the turkey and if so should I use unsalted butter?
ReplyDeleteI use a home depot bucket hope it's ok
ReplyDeleteMatthew - So do I, so you're good. ;-)
ReplyDeleteWould it be okay to let the turkey sit in the brine for 48 hrs?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - No, brining that long will make the meat mushy. Please stick to the guideline of 45 minutes to one hour per pound.
ReplyDeleteJohn, I just want to say THANK YOU SO MUCH for this wonderful recipe!!! I brined our turkey last Thanksgiving and will be doing it every year just like it. My family absolutely loved it, and actually took all the leftover turkey with them when they left the next day! It was a huge hit!
ReplyDeleteBrandon - Thanks so much for your very kind words. I'm glad that you and your family enjoy it. Give one or both of these a shot as a side:
ReplyDeleteBarbecued Sweet Potatoes
Grilled Brussels Sprouts with Onion-Bacon Marmalade
Done this a couple of times now, it's been excellent each time. Great job.
ReplyDeleteAny suggestions on how to kick up it up slightly in the spice department? Just looking for a slight extra kick to it - teaspoon of Cajun seasoning perhaps?
Also, I've had lots of success grilling it and have stuffed it with combinations of onions, celery and apples but sometimes it comes across a bit too fruity - any suggestions for what else to stuff a grilled turkey with?
Jeff - As for the question about spice, you might try adding some sriracha, ground cayenne, or ground chipotle to the brine. I'm not a fan of stuffing any poultry with anything that I would eat. It's dangerous and, if done properly, results in an overcooked bird. That said, I would stick with aromatics (onion, celery, carrots, herbs, etc.) and/or fruits. I simply stuff mine with the citrus from the brine. It adds moisture during cooking as well as a flavor that obviously compliments the brine.
ReplyDeleteI usually leave my poultry out for a day or so in the fridge to dry out the skin to keep it really crispy when cooking. Can I brine the turkey for the 24 hours and then let it sit in the fridge for another day uncovered? Thank you!
ReplyDeleteUnknown - Yes, you can brine the bird and keep it refrigerated to let the skin dry somewhat, but that seems like a lot of work. Instead, try just patting the skin dry with paper towels and then apply a light coat of canola oil, followed by your seasoning of choice. If you cook the bird at 275* or above (and you should for food safety), you'll find that you won't lose that lovely crispy skin. See the photos here for proof.
ReplyDeleteOk, I'm a virgin turkey roaster ! Today is Sunday , my bird is still in the freezer... Question... Do I thaw the bird then brine.. Is it too late? Thank you!
ReplyDeleteAshley - Yes, it must thawed completely. You still have time. Just move the frozen bird (wrapped as-is) to the refrigerator immediately. Depending on the size, it can take several days to fully thaw. You can Google for faster defrosting methods, but be very careful. Here is a simple cooking method. Just substitute the brining method here instead of the Big Bird Bath.
ReplyDeleteThank you sooo much...gr8 recipe!!!
ReplyDeleteI see your note about 45 minutes/pound for brining time, I have an 8-10 turkey I am picking up tomorrow, should I only brine for 6-7.5 hours or will I be OK doing the 12-24? Thanks!!
ReplyDeleteLmorris - I wouldn't brine for much longer than one hour per pound. If you do, you run the risk of the meat becoming mushy.
ReplyDeleteThank you - I just saw that your recipe was for 12-24 for a 14 lb bird and with the same math would have been less than 12 hours too.... I ended up with a 12lb should I adjust any of the salt content? It is not preseasoned or brined. thank you for the quick responses. Happy Thanksgiving!
ReplyDeleteLmorris - Actually, this recipe is "scaled for a 14-16 pound turkey". Given that, you'll be fine as-is. Just brine 45 minutes per pound.
ReplyDeleteThis is awesome I used your brine recipe for my 24 lb Thanksgiving bird then slow smoked it for 8 hours everyone was raving about it. So much that I was convinced to spend Christmas smoking another one. Thanks for the recipe.
ReplyDeleteI'm try this today is baked an option but i may just smoke it
ReplyDeleteJeff,
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think about using vegetable stock in lieu of the 1/2 gallon of tap water? Would that brine base throw off the flavor for the rest of the seasonings?
I'm not a fan of vegetable stock.
ReplyDeleteJohn
I brined a turkey in the past and the wife said it was too salty, I don't remember but it must have been a pre-injected turkey. I want to brine again this year but I ordered a fresh turkey from a farm that is not injected. If I follow this recipe can I also inject a butter/garlic mixture in the turkey and if so should I use unsalted butter?
ReplyDeleteUnknown - You can inject with whatever you like, but I would avoid adding more salt.
ReplyDeleteI'm from Maryland as soon as I saw Old Bay in this recipe I had to try it for Thanksgiving. It was so good I'm doing it for Christmas. Awesome taste.
ReplyDeleteCan I use a turkey fryer pot that normally is used in conjunction with a propane tank to brine the turkey in the fridge?
ReplyDeleteNo, that's against Federal law. ;-)
ReplyDeleteOf course you can!
CAN I USE A BRINING BAG INSTEAD OF A 5 GALLON TUB
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ReplyDeleteTim - Absolutely not! That would be a violation of several federal statutes.
ReplyDeleteI kid. Of course you can use a bag, but I'd recommend that you turn off the caps lock first. Let's not get too crazy with the Cheez Whiz. ;-)
Happy Thanksgiving